tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6709628234185282197.post923483564728247358..comments2023-09-05T10:21:30.206+02:00Comments on Wirdheim in Vilanova: Was the December 13 Referendum a Historic Day for the Catalans?Erik Wirdheimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11761766313024185298noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6709628234185282197.post-12017800856015461872010-01-13T00:12:49.403+01:002010-01-13T00:12:49.403+01:00Hi Florenci,
Yes, believe it or not, I am for the...Hi Florenci,<br /><br />Yes, believe it or not, I am for the first time answering on your many comments ;-)<br /><br />Let me therefore start by asking you to excuse me if I, at least so far, do not give much priority to this side of blogging. <br /><br />Here is a Lavanguardia article with an analysis of the participation which I think is similar to yours: <br /><br />http://www.lavanguardia.es/politica/noticias/20091220/53849589430/el-apoyo-a-la-independencia-es-superior-a-lo-que-dicen-las-cifras-del-13-d-quebec-estatut-constituci.html<br /><br />You are of course right that not only ERC- and CUP-voters took part December 13. I know several people who are close to CDC Vilanova who did. However, with the good job done by "VNG Decideix" I consider it sad that the number of voters was below the amount of people who vote for either ERC, CUP or CiU in, for example, municipal elections. <br /><br />I am aware that a very big share of CiU does not want full independence, but these people could have voted no or in blank. From my perspective, by not voting they missed a unique chance to vindicate the right to decide (el dret a decidir). And I am quite confident that you agree with me here.<br /><br />//ErikErik Wirdheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761766313024185298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6709628234185282197.post-20530205295614841312009-12-21T08:39:00.789+01:002009-12-21T08:39:00.789+01:00A goog analyse. Next day to the referendum, Mister...A goog analyse. Next day to the referendum, Mister Zaragoza appeared in the tv saying that the referendum was OK but voted just a minority of Catalans. That's true. Just about a 25% of Catalans voted Yes, in fact. But do you know which is the amount of % Catalans voted PSC, the party is now governing? only a 15%. In las elections, about a 549% of Catalans just didn't vote. The most voted party was Convergència that ranked less than 18% of total possible voters. Even all the tripartit voted altogether make a bit under the 25%. Then, compared the Yes voters in the non-ofiicial referendum, people who voted in it reached an amount of voters even one point above the coalition in now governing in Catalonia. That means that even 25% is not a good result it would represent a massive absolute majority in normal elections therms. And knowing that in some towns - there are places when people didn't know where to go to vote, because the lack of money and information... and the laziness of the voters for geting information, of course - and that immigrants were allowed to vote and those never have that right in a normal consult, I think the success is spectacularly high.<br /><br />Now, it started - at least! - parliamentary discussions about the possibility of banning that stupid thing clled "corridas de toros" because only 180.000 signatures have benn get from people like me, I admit. Everybody is admired at this. Me too. But it seems that 200.000 in just an amount of people that only represents the 10% of the total population of Catalonia (700.000 to 7.000.000) is watched as a ridiculous question.<br /><br />I think not only ERC or CUp voters went to put their paper with a Yes. I am not a voter of those parties and if I could I would voted a Yes with all my energies.<br /><br />I am amazed that thos % numbers I commented you - that are a simple but true mats question - haven't benn commented in any tv or journal debate I read or watched.<br /><br />A pleasure to read your articles.<br /><br />Sorry my fast comment, I have to go now! Have a nice day.Florenci Salesashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05330011142788359111noreply@blogger.com